Business acumen

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8 Jul 2008 10:03 pm

I’m in dire need of opinions about a dilemma, but before I proceed lemme relate what happened during yesterday’s lecture for Business Finance.

Our lecturer was relating to us how we needed to get a financial calculator that will cost about RM130-140 outside, but should we purchase in bulk, we can probably get it for about RM100 each. When asked for volunteers, being Malaysians who refuse to shoulder any responsibility when one could help it, no hands were raised. And this went on for some time (it was our first lecture so we were busy signing up for our tutorials), even despite the fact that our lecturer told us that we could charge an extra ringgit or two for the work involved.

After a while, Khai Shin – literally the only one I ever hung out with in RMIT ‘cause other people already formed their own respective cliques – asked if I’d be interested to volunteer ‘cause she sure as hell wouldn’t want to pay the full price of the calculator. I hesitated, then she nudged on saying that she’d help me with it, and that we should definitely charge a little extra for the effort we’re putting into.

So when Ms. Bee Bee asked the students again for volunteers, I told her that I’d volunteer (I was near the sign-up forms for tutorials placed near her), she announced my name, pointed to me, and everyone started clapping WTF.

When class ended, a few students (including one quite hot Indonesian? girl) began to approach me wanting to pay RM100 but I told them to pay me another day as I’ve yet to find out how much the calculators are exactly. While I was pondering where the hell to get the financial calculators from, FAC (Fucking Annoying Classmate) came to the rescue – as usual – and conveniently, at the top of his voice, told me that the Curtin office purchased the calculators for only RM95 each. He then passed me a booklet detailing said calculators along with the contact numbers (so ever resourceful).

When I went inside my dad’s car, I wasted no time ringing the dude up and placed an order for 33 calculators. Khai Shin and I decided to charge RM5 each – making the calculator cost RM100 exactly – which should be able to cover our SMS and telephoning charges to the students concerned. And we would gain about RM70+ each from shouldering this task – not bad can cover more than half of the cost of the calculator itself. :D

I was actually initially very very lazy to shoulder any responsibility having done that quite a lot in high school, but ah when financial gain is concerned, I’ll be there wtf. Hooray to business acumen.

At 9.45pm yesterday, I left from house and picked up Andy and Sarah, and then went to Melur USJ 17 where we were supposed to meet up with Kai Shen, Ding, and Kai Tzin – it’s supposed to be The Last Supper before Kai Shen departs today for Sydney to further his studies there for 2 years. After a while, Esther and Adrian dropped by.


The guys who went yesterday.


Adrian, Kai Shen, Sarah, Esther.


Andy, Sarah, Esther, Kai Tzin, Ding.

We waited for Angela to arrive at about 11.45pm, then moved out to USJ 8’s satay stall as Esther wanted to belanja Kai Shen eat satay for one last time. Ryui Bynn and his bro dropped by and we all hung out till about 1am.

Another friend of mine leaving to study abroad – farewell Kai Shen, my sports buddy in high school where we always run and play badminton and cycle together. (Sigh, I used to be really healthy.)

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Right, the dilemma.

I have about maybe a year more to go before I finally make a decision whether to make this big leap to study abroad. My parents have been encouraging me to try it out “for the experience” – but the one big factor that’s holding me back is actually the thought of leaving my friends and family behind.

A year or 6 months probably don’t make that much of a difference, but a lot of things could change within that period. I should know, I think a part of me have changed quite a bit in the previous six months. In that six months/1 year, we might drift apart – or I might change too much to comfortably settle in into this u8 clique. And funnily enough, when I started college, when asked if I’d ever study abroad, my answer would be a vehement no because it’s just too expensive even if I were to go there for only a year (and this reasoning is still valid).

Heng made an encouraging comment on Jess’ latest entry:

from Labuan to Clem : haha i think u can get used to it la clem. providing u mix around. now my life here is hang out with my friends, whether in cafeteria chatting or in the comp lab surfing or in the room smoking and playing chor tai ti. and ill be back in my dorm just to sleep and bathe. i even shit in my friend’s dorm cos my toilet no seat. hahahaha. it’s definitely possible so if u do have the chance to go just go. tho u might regret it at first but our subang kaki will be friends even after we study. BTW!!! VODKA HERE 33 BUCKS A FUCKING BOTTLE!!! got absolut PEAR oso!!


And Jess as well.

Right now I’m leaning towards going – and here’s the dilemma, if I do choose to study in Melbourne, should I go for 1 year or do a 6-month studying stint instead? Factors to be considered:

Money: I’m not too sure of the costs involved in studying there, but IIRC from what I was told some time ago, it costs nearly RM100k to study there for a year. -____- That’s about RM20-30k more expensive than if I choose to complete my degree here for 3 years, and I don’t know if it’s worth it spending so much of my money for a very expensive studying experience.

Culture shock: An example I would cite is my Business Finance subject which I’m doing now. My lecturer told me that in Melbourne, there are no tutorial classes for this subject and she told us that we should be thankful that we even have tuts here. And another ‘culture shock’ would be, in Melbourne, we have to use original textbooks while in Malaysia, nobody gives a hoot if you photostat them or not.

And another culture shock would be, shops close after 5pm WTF. Though clubbing is reportedly cheap.. (not that I enjoy clubbing at all though).

Dorm-/room-mates: I don’t want to go to Australia just to see more Malaysians, gimme locals and international students anytime. (Although of course it could be quite reassuring to see the occasional Malaysian sometimes.)

Working: I’m not too sure if I’d choose to stay there to work after I graduate, but as of now, preliminary plans indicate no.

Homesick-ness: T________T

17 Thoughts to Business acumen

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sarah MALAYSIA

July 8th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

haha…not bad wei…can get rm 70 for doing so…
wa…if u volunteer earlier b4 ur fren asking u…
means u can get 140????
haha….

n bout ur dillema….ya…for me i oso donno should i go overseas anot if i’m in ur shoes…
haha…have to make a big decision….
for me…i have no choice….my stupid uni have limited courses….

anyway….bout frenz….it’ll be alright if u socialise more….
haha…go n kepo here n there….then should be alright….=P

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Huey MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 1:25 am

Dang! I bought my financial calculator for RM97, that person must have suck RM2 from me!

If you have a chance, just go to overseas. I really wanted to go but the financial burden is too hard for my parents to carry.

There’s a lot of things you can learn in overseas. RM100k to exchange an experience of a lifetime is definitely worth it.

I don’t know how’s your uni but I’m sure Melbourne is filled with Asians.

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sweatlee MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 9:46 am

EH THE BEST PERSON TO ASK IS ME OK LET ME ANSWER IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
anyway i thought ur dilemma is about the calculator issue! tengok tengok nothing also chehhh

1. cost: find this out first before thinking about whether u wanna study abroad anot. are u sure the cost is really 100k? how much is the tuition only? i think u can spend less on living cost etc etc. is the tuition very much higher than now?

2. culture shock: seriously don’t ever worry about this! i’m sure you’ll be fine, after all, it’s not like you havent been to other countries before. although the way the edu system works might be different, why should that deter you from going? i spend very very little on textbooks cause we can 1. buy online 2. buy second hand form seniors 3. get from library 4. share with other ppl, the list is endless la clem. one word abt culture shock: you’ll get used to it! although that’s more than one word wtf. hmm but im not sure about melbourne cause they’re sooo many asians there, bleh.

as for the rest of your dilemmas, don’t have to worry till you get there la. the main pros for studying abroad is the experience, and u shouldnt let all the small cons deter you. i know for someone like you who love seeing new cultures and places, you’ll not regret going abroad. if cost is a burden, then just go for 6 months la still better than nthg. and dont worry about changing, i still get along very well with you guys dont i?

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sweatlee MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 9:48 am

oh and also, i heard it’s relatively easy to get a part time job in aust. working as a waiter can easily get you like $10 aus dollar an hour or something. you can then pay for your accommodation/food! it’s not as easy in US cause international students cant work outside campus, but im pretty sure in aust you can..

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chris MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 9:54 am

i’m so proud of u my jambu!

now go forth and make money!

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jessieloi MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

WAH like that also can make money!

Next time got any thing also I’ll follow your example. Hahha.

Oh and i think suet’s right by the way, about her being the best person to ask. Hahha.

Oh and homesickness – something you get used to. And don’t forget the ppl you meet there will be homesick too, and by talking to each other that’s how you guys helo each other out.

And there’s technology. it helped me alot by talking to min and heng. i’m having a ldr with them .Hahaha.

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hL MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Jess : great now everyone knows we’re having ldr

i agree with suet tho. my book costs something like 60-80 per sub and its a big pain in the ass. Im somewhat studying ‘overseas’ so sometimes it hits me about the money and all. thank god im getting the ptptn loan. i guess u should find other alternatives of money aside from ur parents too..even if it means working. or u can always take a small loan to survive and work abit for entertainment spendings. then u wont have that much of a burden when u work and study at the same time.

and on culture shock, its a bitch =). really, i hated it at here 1st but if there’s one thing i learned is that in every place there’s always one thing nice u can enjoy. here for exp is the cigs, and that gorgeous blue seas and sandy beach. try not to think too much about the negatives of a new place because so many people have enjoyed the positives before, and it is usually enough to make u get used to one place.

finally, get a fucking maxis number and jess and i can msg u more often if ur homesick

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sarah MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

haha…to heng….

clem will be goin to OVERSEAS….if he’s goin la…
n there will be no MAXIS…..
swt….=P

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Clem MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 7:18 pm

sarah: yeah man can get rm140! but haha i still need her help anyway ‘cause i can’t run the whole thing on my own.. i have mostly different classes than the rest of these students who want to buy the calcs.

haha trust me, i’ve been in a situation when i feel so damn lonely (when backpacking in satun, thailand) and that really forced me to just talk to random people on the streets. so i think socialising-wise.. should be OK i hope..

huey: kaka sure kena charged extra rm2 edi! but fair la right ‘cause the person have to take the trouble to buy in bulk from you.. then contact everyone etc not easy ok wtf (speaking from experience :D).

goddamn i don’t want so many Asians in my city loh. huhu nvm.

suet: thanks for the uber-long reply. <3

ya the rm100k i mentioned includes everything: tuition fees, average living costs, dorm rental fees, etcetc. but again not sure of the exact price ‘cause i think prices may have went up because AUD$ is strengthening a lot =.=”

true la no point worrying till i get there. i just wanted to give myself a level of expectations so i won’t be completely ‘culture shocked’ when i do fly there.

and yeah you’re still the same ol’ suet. =)

ya i definitely am gonna work part-time there. dunno whether should do waiter-ing or not haih i feel like working at those supermarket check-out counters LOL wanna diversify my working experience. :P

chris: oh my peach thank you so much wtf.

jess: keke ya can make money like this oso! even better when your lecturer gives consent to this ‘business’ or if not, obviously make sure your classmates don’t find out wtf.

that’s the thing. when i’m there on my last sem, i’m probably the only one (or few) who’s there on a ‘last sem’.. but then again no point worrying so far ahead.

haha how? skype? or talking on hp?

heng: 3-way ldr wtf.

actually i was thinking, if i can complete a lot of my subs here and arrange it so i’m only left with 3 subjects (or hopefully 2 nyahaha but then again kinda pointless with the money i’m already spending just to live there) in Australia.. that means i probably will have more time to work (and relax). i try not to take loan oso la unless really have no choice jor.

that’s really quite true. i don’t even know anything about melbourne yet but already thinking so far ahead lol. i dunno any positives about melbourne yet.. maybe can buy tons of cheap wines and drink every night wtf.

haha i really want to get a maxis number edi, but then yen said the ‘mobile number portability’ (where you can retain your current number even if u switch lines) is coming out in august.. so keeping my fingers crossed. then can msg you guys kau2 d. =)

sarah: yahor wtf nvm got skype! but dunno skype can send sms or not.

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cvien MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 9:50 pm

hi…

the tuition fee for a year in Melb is AUD16,08.00 around rm49k+++...

Ms.ALice, our head of RMIT prog gave me this list about comparing 3+0 and 2+1 tuition fee…
If you want, you can get a copy from Fatima or me..
:)

The living expense in Melb (1year ) is AUD13,200 I can say is quite impossible…
Provided you stay far from the campus then only the rental cheap ma..
But the rental is relatively expensive thou…

I heard those auntie uncles say around 100K for a year…
My another friend his brother went for 1sem, he say around 70k-80k…
But I’m not sure whether he telling the truth anot la bcuz is too expensive for a sem…

There is this guy who sat beside me in Biz Finance class on Monday, he just came back from Melb, he actually can’t stand the life there..by the way his name is Eugene..
Plus, he tell me about how different the course compare there and here..
He keep on telling me that “I can’t imagine how you all can fail, you all are spoon fed”
=.=

But the textbooks compulsory must ORI…
That is why alot of people will asked their parents, family to buy here then send it to them in Aussie, even they buy here also around rm100-200 per book..

Eugene he tried to work in Melb la, but he quit after few days..
I forgotten why la because it was long time ago…
He almost ate Maggi Mee everyday to help his parents save money, eat bread in the morning or sometimes skip breakfast because want to save money to sit tram…=.=

I feel bad la telling all the negative things..

Btw, have you contact Jack yet..
I think next time you can get your books from him..
If he not leaving for Aussieland next sem la..

The biz finan fella asked me whether needa buy ORI textbooks I was laughing, because we buy photocopies wert..
He also complain about his book in Melb, how much how much n all…

I was in T1 today, your friend Khai Shin asked our class to pay to her..
I was surprise actually because I thought only you in charge of the whole buying calculator thingy…

I also bought rm100..
But I don’t know, can earn money eh…

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Clem MALAYSIA

July 9th, 2008 at 10:39 pm

yo!

hmm means roughly 1 sem is rm25k. then living expenses plus dunno how much.. haih i think i better put it as another extra rm25k ‘cause a blogger friend just told me he had to pay AUD$180-200 per WEEK for his rentals. damn giler babi mahal lo.

70-80k 1 sem? =.=” hmm don’t really believe that la unless the fella spend like mad in just 1 sem lol.

oh i thought you know Eugene for some time edi? you guys seemed to be quite close lol. anyway i know Eugene too! but not so close to him la, just that we’re in the same Foundation batch in Metro.

haih the difference of the courses is what i’m scared about to. but if i only have 1 sem there.. just have to ‘ngai har’ 1 sem lol. but that’s for future me to think about i guess.

so kesian say until eat maggi mee everyday WTF. =.=” damn extreme weh.

ya i contacted Jack edi! getting it from him next Tues. :) thanks for your help wei!

haha have to split up the job ma, if not a bit damn hard to collect the money. the supplier keep wanting to know the exact number of orders and i scared got people ffk onli. then terpaksa use own money to pay. =.=”

don’t spread the rm100 thingy to everyone first ya. at least let them pay up sin. XD

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cvien MALAYSIA

July 12th, 2008 at 12:22 am

de rental is true dat is wat my senior complain abt oso..
damn expensive..
Per week summore..
n nw most of de mths have like 5weeks per mth…

Eugene also the Jack’s fella geng 1..
Jack also in ur Pr Theory class 1…
U will notice abt him afta diz buying n selling thingy..

Chill la,I literally know anyone in BF class..
Except u n eugene and few gals la..

I more close 2 him previously bt v never contact each other 4 like past 6mths…
Nw he come bc his geng all 1 sem away so u noe abt me la..
So we terpaksa accompany each other la..
He soon gt his frenz 1 la i think…

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Clem MALAYSIA

July 12th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

5 weeks per month swt =..=

Ohhh is it? Hmm didn’t seem to notice this Jack fella yet.. maybe next Tuesday when I’m supposed to meet up with him lol.

hahaha icic.. yeahla sometimes we stick with certain people because of need more than anything else lol.

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sibs NEW ZEALAND

July 13th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

oh sorry for late reply, was at the mount on a snow trip this pass week.

i reckon you should just jump forward and go overseas for studies. melbourne is an awesome place, lots of sunshine and good shopping and food. unlike nz. gah. nz isnt half bad though.

you’ll get used to difference in culture and everything though. it took me some months to get over the fact that shops close by 5pm, and that the people arent always as nice as you’d like them to be. having said that, it’s definitely up to you to work towards getting a good bunch of friends you can call your family. in this past 5 years i’ve had so many people coming in ad out of my life that i
have completely forgotten who was there for me when i first came.

i have a good bunch of friends now, and yea, i suppose i do consider them family. it’ll be hard, but then again no one said it’d be easy.

good luck on your decision! i can definitely guarantee you that if you do choose to study overseas, you’re not gonna regret it!

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Clem MALAYSIA

July 14th, 2008 at 6:05 pm

a snow trip! ahhh i haven’t touched or encountered real snow yet.. we only have fake snow and all that in some entertainment centres here. =.=”

oh you’ve been to melbourne? i’m a bit reluctant to jump into yet another city to live in.. esp when the standards of living are much higher in cities. :/ but ah well it’s gonna be for just 6 months or less.

yeah that closing hour of 5pm thing will be the first major culture shock i have to handle. i don’t have the luxury of time too to get a good bunch of friends in that short period of 6 months.. i guess i really have to be very very sociable for once, which is something that’s going to be a lil tough for a partial introvert like me. :P

i certainly hope so! about a year and a half more to go. =p

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sibs NEW ZEALAND

July 15th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

hehe snow is the best thing on earth. the first time i experienced real snow was 2 years ago now, and it was really cool! no pun intended.

i was in melbourne for a holiday, but i guess that’s close enough. i was there last summer actually. that’s last december ish.

it’s ok if you’re an introvert, heck im an introvert myself. it’s funny how you’d expect no one to come to ya, but you’d be surprised at how many people you do attract at the end of that 6 months. i’ve only been in palmy (new town, 8 hours south of auckland) for a year and i’ve already made many friends. none of which i expected to be hanging out with a year from now last year.

you’ll be fine, im sure it’ll be the best decision you’ve ever made!

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Clem MALAYSIA

July 15th, 2008 at 9:49 pm

thanks a lot sibs – yeah i think i’ve finally made up my mind to actually go. and thanks for reassuring me with the making friends thing. =)

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